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McCain’s Columbus Speech: “I Will appoint Democrats To My Cabinet” and Other Flights of Fancy!
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Below are excerpts from McCain’s speech given in Columbus OH and my take on what he had to say! His speech portrays what he hopes to look back from the year 2013 and see!
Most of what I picked up is that John McCain has plenty of illusions about cutting spending and returning us to fiscal sanity mixed in with lots of new government regulation and plenty more big government for you Democrat fan’s out there in the commune! This speech was creative and as entertaining as McCain is capable of making it, but most of all, it’s long on promises and short on how he’s going to get us there!
I’ve gone paragraph by paragraph and pulled the quotes I found most amusing, Have fun and pass it along if you’ve a mind to!
We spend too little time and offer too few specifics on that most important of questions. We make promises, of course, about what kind of policies we would pursue in office....
McCain speaks eloquently here on the desire to offer specifics on what a McCain presidency would look like after four years. It’s too bad that this speech appears to be more fantasy than policy!
I will focus all the powers of the office; every skill and strength I possess; and seize every opportunity to work with members of Congress who put the national interest ahead of partisanship, and any country in the world that shares our hopes for a more peaceful and prosperous world.
McCain returns to this theme over and over again as if he has a monopoly on what is or is not in the national interest. Implicit in his remarks is that anyone who disagrees with him from either party are only influenced by partisanship rather than a belief that their disagreement is rooted in principle or a deep seated and sincere belief in what is right and wrong!
The Government of Pakistan has cooperated with the U.S. in successfully adapting the counterinsurgency tactics that worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan to its lawless tribal areas where al Qaeda fighters are based.
How is the great diplomat going to get Pakistan to cooperate with the US tracking down Al Quaeda in Pakistan’s northern regions since they have refused to do so for the last seven years. This goal is all the more unreachable given the fact that our best friend in the Government in Pakistan was voted out of power last year and replaced with a government that is at the very least, less friendly to us than Pervez Musharraf.
The fantasy continues when McCain talks about bringing the “counterinsurgency tactics that worked so well in Iraq and Afghanistan to its, (Pakistan's) lawless tribal areas”! How are we going to conduct these anti insurgency efforts when the Pakistani government won’t let us into the region to conduct operations and the Tribesmen in the area are not only harboring Al Quaeda and the Taliban but is also allied in it’s efforts to conduct cross border operations in Afganistan against American and allied forces!
The increase in actionable intelligence that the counterinsurgency produced led to the capture or death of Osama bin Laden, and his chief lieutenants.
Let’s hope you’re right John, I’d love to see it…do ya think you can get the Democrats to go along with increasing our intelligence capabilities since they’ve spent the last 50 years trying to strip our intelligence agencies of any capability....even after 911?
The United States and its allies have made great progress in advancing nuclear security. Concerted action by the great democracies of the world has persuaded a reluctant Russia and China to cooperate in pressuring Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions, and North Korea to discontinue its own.
How is McCain going to convince our allies, who haven’t shown any stomach for it to date, to stand up to Russia and China and help us deal with Iran and North Korea?
The size of the Army and Marine Corps has been significantly increased, and are now better equipped and trained to defend us.
There is no mention of how he will get an arguably anti military Democrat Congress to go along with increasing the size of regular military forces but I hope he can.
Long overdue reforms to the way we acquire weapons programs, including fixed price contracts, have created sufficient savings to pay for a larger military.
He mentions “fixed price contracts” in reference to weapons procurement? So now we have a Republican President advocating price controls on the Government procurement of military equipment removing the ability of manufacturers to recoup expenses incurred in the production of vital defense equipment? Sounds like sound conservative economic policy to me!
After efforts to pressure the Government in Sudan over Darfur failed again in the U.N. Security Council, the United States, acting in concert with a newly formed League of Democracies, applied stiff diplomatic and economic pressure that caused the government of Sudan to agree to a multinational peacekeeping force, with NATO countries providing logistical and air support, to stop the genocide that had made a mockery of the world's repeated declaration that we would "never again" tolerant such inhumanity. Encouraged by the success, the League is now occupied with using the economic power and prestige of its member states to end other gross abuses of human rights such as the despicable crime of human trafficking.
Here is McCain’s scheme to create a so called “League of Democracies” to take it’s place along side other failed multinational bureaucracies such as NATO, and the UN. Of course the United States will be expected to fund and carry water for this new multi national coalition! McCain has never mentioned what countries are going to join this “League of Democracies” that are not already party to NATO, and has opposed us on every effective foreign policy issues of our time!
The United States has experienced several years of robust economic growth, and Americans again have confidence in their economic future.
How does he achieve this?
A reduction in the corporate tax rate from the second highest in the world to one on par with our trading partners; the low rate on capital gains; allowing business to deduct in a single year investments in equipment and technology, while eliminating tax loopholes and ending corporate welfare, have spurred innovation and productivity, and encouraged companies to keep their operations and jobs in the United States. The Alternate Minimum Tax is being phased out, with relief provided first to middle income families. Doubling the size of the child exemption has put more disposable income in the hands of taxpayers, further stimulating growth.
I love the goals stated here but again…where’s the beef? Of course this is going to be accomplished with House and Senate majorities by the anti tax cut, never a tax they didn’t love Democrat Party. McCain by the shear force of his will, charm, and reaching across the isle will accomplish a capital gains tax cut, a reduction of the corporate tax rate, a repeal of the AMT, and a policy allowing corporations to expense equipment in a single year. He’ll accomplish in four short years what no Republican President has been able to accomplish in the last quarter century.
Congress has just passed by a single up or down vote a tax reform proposal that offers Americans a choice of continuing to file under the rules of the current complicated and burdensome tax code or use a new, simpler, fairer and flatter tax, with two rates and a generous deduction. Millions of taxpayers are expected to file under the flat tax, and save billions in the cost of preparing their returns.
More Fantasy: McCain will get the Democrats to go along with him in removing the single most effective tool they have had since 1913 to punish business, redistribute wealth and influence behavior simply by reaching out to them and being Mr. Nice Guy.
After exercising my veto several times in my first year in office, Congress has not sent me an appropriations bill containing earmarks for the last three years.
Good goal, let’s see if he can carry through on it and withstand the pressure the Democrat Congress will put on him!
A top to bottom review of every federal bureaucracy has yielded great reductions in government spending by identifying programs that serve no important purpose…
This sounds great…too bad he negates it below by promising yet more job training programs and spending on community colleges!
New free trade agreements have been ratified and led to substantial increases in both exports and imports. The resulting growth in prosperity in countries from South America to Asia to Africa has greatly strengthened America's security and the global progress of our political ideals. U.S. tariffs on agricultural imports have been eliminated and unneeded farm subsidies are being phased out. The world food crisis has ended, inflation is low, and the quality of life not only in our country, but in some of the most impoverished countries around the world is much improved.
End tariffs, end poverty, end hunger, end the food crises, bring prosperity to Africa, Asia and South America, lower inflation, and improve the standard of living around the globe all by himself…with the help of a supportive MSM and Democrat Congress? In four short years?
Sign me up!
Americans, who through no fault of their own, lost jobs in the global economy they once believed were theirs for life, are assisted by reformed unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs. Older workers who accept lower paying jobs while they acquire new skills are provided assistance to make up a good part of the income they have lost. Community colleges and technical schools all over the country have developed worker retraining programs suited to the specific economic opportunities available in their communities and are helping millions of workers who have lost a job that won't come back find a new one that won't go away.
Of course this; along with everything else he recites in this speech will be accomplished with the expansion of a more benign and loving Federal Government. Never mind his review above that we will use to end wasteful spending and eliminate duplication of useless federal programs!
Public education in the United States is much improved thanks to the competition provided by charter and private schools; the increase of quality teachers through incentives like merit pay and terrific programs that attract to the classroom enthusiastic and innovative teachers from many disciplines, like Teach for America and Troops to Teachers. Educational software and online teaching programs endorsed by qualified non profits are much more widely in use, bringing to the smallest classrooms in America some of the greatest math, English, and science teachers in the country. This revolution in teaching methods has especially benefited rural America. Test scores and graduation rates are rising everywhere in the country.
I like his talk about charter and private schools but gone is the long term goal of the Republican Party to end the Federal control over our school system by eliminating the Department of Education. Never mind his commitment to reducing spending…we’re going to increase merit pay for teachers from the Federal coffers, expand all these programs by spending from the Federal budget and eliminate local control of our schools!
Health care has become more accessible…(utilizing)…walk in clinics as alternatives to emergency room care….
Are we to assume that these new clinics are going to be built by the American Taxpayer? How does this jive with a commitment to cut spending?
…competition in the prescription drug market have begun to wring out the runaway inflation once endemic in our health care system.
More competition in the Prescription drug market? Does this mean we’re going to end drug patents like the Democrats have been trying to do since the early 90s? Importation of drugs from Canada? How is this going to affect the expenditure of limited resources of Drug Companies for R&D if they can’t recoup those costs when they release them to the market if they will be forced to compete with other manufacturers who will be making and selling the drugs they just released?
I believe it can be assumed that if this is the case and these are the result, the next step would be government subsidies for R&D to make up the difference and thus government control of what drugs will be created!
Schools have greatly improved their emphasis on physical education and nutritional content of meals offered in school cafeterias. Obesity rates among the young and the disease they engender are stabilized and beginning to decline.
The Federal Government mandating nutrition and exorcise programs on local schools and Federal regulation of school menus? More mandates on our public education system and less local control!
The reduction in the growth of health care costs has begun to relieve some of the pressure on Medicare; encouraging Congress to act in a bipartisan way to extend its solvency for twenty-five years without increasing taxes and raising premiums only for upper income seniors.
First off…Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions with a dash of the law of unintended consequences thrown in!
The assumption is that his health care program will actually cost less and not more as is the usual case when the government assumes control of any sector of the American economy. I doubt the savings he points to will materialize in order to pay for this flight of fancy so I’d expect him to reach across the isle and get his friends to raise payroll taxes to accomplish his goal of extending the solvency of Medicare!
Their success encouraged a group of congressional leaders from both parties to work with my administration to fix Social Security as well, without reducing benefits to those near retirement. The reforms include some form of personal retirement accounts in safe and reliable index funds, such as have been available to government employees since their retirement plans were made solvent a quarter century ago.
Are you serious? Democrats are going to help him fix Social Security giving us personal retirement accounts and index funds? Yeah, I’m sure they’ll jump at the chance!
The United States is well on the way to independence from foreign sources of oil; progress that has not only begun to alleviate the environmental threat posed from climate change, but has greatly improved our security as well. A cap and trade system has been implemented, spurring great innovation in the development of green technologies and alternative energy sources. Clean coal technology has advanced considerably with federal assistance. Construction has begun on twenty new nuclear reactors thanks to improved incentives and a streamlined regulatory process.
Cap & Trade, of course we’re going to implement this and still have the robust economy he references earlier in his speech. We’re going to miraculously end (what I believe to be non existent) man made global warming in 4 years! What a man!
Oh…and we’re going to develop green technologies, with the help of the federal government all the while cutting spending, and without increasing food prices as stated earlier in his speech! Throw in clean coal technology for good measure with government subsidies no doubt, and we’ll reach across the isle again and get the Democrats to approve twenty new nuclear reactors despite the fact that they’ve successfully blocked the building of even one for over 20 years!
Scores of judges have been confirmed to the federal district and appellate courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, who understand that they were not sent there to write our laws but to enforce them and make sure they are consistent with the Constitution.
This “make sure they, (Laws), are consistent with the Constitution” is exactly the problem isn’t it? The way they make laws is by saying they don’t conform with one aspect of the Constitution or another.
Besides, once again, we face the issue of the good will of the Democrats to accomplish his goal. Good luck John!
Border state governors have certified and the American people recognize that after tremendous improvements to border security infrastructure and increases in the border patrol, and vigorous prosecution of companies that employ illegal aliens, our southern border is now secure. Illegal immigrants who broke our laws after they came here have been arrested and deported. Illegal immigration has been finally brought under control, and the American people accepted the practical necessity to institute a temporary worker program and deal humanely with the millions of immigrants who have been in this country illegally.
OK, we’ve secured the border and built the “G*D D***ED FENCE”, stopped employers from hiring illegal immigrants, deported criminal aliens, then we work out a temporary worker program. What next? We deal “humanely” with the millions of illegal aliens that are here? As opposed to inhumanely John? As opposed to making them go to the back of the line and wait their turn like the immigrants that are trying to do the right thing?
Yeah, I’ll hold my breath! Sounds more like another shot at amnesty to me!
Voluntary national service has grown in popularity in part because of the educational benefits used as incentives….but mostly because the young Americans, no less than earlier generations, understand that true happiness is much greater than the pursuit of pleasure, and can only be found by serving causes greater than self-interest.
We will continue the Clintonian travesty of paying “volunteers” with taxpayer dollars. Oh…and we’ll teach these volunteers how much happiness can be experienced by doing for others at taxpayer expense!
I am well aware I cannot make any of these changes alone. The powers of the presidency are rightly checked by the other branches of government, and I will not attempt to acquire powers our founders saw fit to grant Congress.
Unlike that usurper of power and that despot, Bush who made my Democrat and MSM friends so mad!
For too long, now, Washington has been consumed by a hyper-partisanship that treats every serious challenge facing us as an opportunity to trade insults; disparage each other's motives; and fight about the next election. For all the problems we face, if you ask Americans what frustrates them most about Washington, they will tell you they don't think we're capable of serving the public interest before our personal and partisan ambitions; that we fight for ourselves and not for them. Americans are sick of it, and they have every right to be. They are sick of the politics of selfishness, stalemate and delay. They despair when every election -- no matter who wins -- always seems to produce four more years of unkept promises and a government that is just a battleground for the next election. Their patience is at an end for politicians who value ambition over principle, and for partisanship that is less a contest of ide as than an uncivil brawl over the spoils of power. They want to change not only the policies and institutions that have failed the American people, but the political culture that produced them. They want to move this country forward and stake our claim on this century as we did in the last. And they want their government to care more about them than preserving the privileges of the powerful.
Oh those nasty partisans who won’t bow down and do something for the sake of just doing it! They shouldn’t worry about whether what they are doing is right or not, they should all just go along to get along and do something. Never mind the damage they do, just as long as we can skip and sing along the yellow brick road and think happy thoughts!
I will ask Democrats to serve in my administration.
Hey John, Which Democrats do you intend to ask to serve in your Administration? Maybe Ted Kennedy at ICE? Or John Murtha at the VA? Let’s put Chuck Schumer at the Justice Department so he can go after those nasty corporate raiders! How about Jimmy Carter or some like minded America hater to head up the Department of State! Let’s put Jeremiah Write in as ambassador to the UN so he can work to stop the human rights violations from those nasty white crackers that poisoned so many Blacks with Crack Cocaine and Aids! That sounds like something to get the base fired up!
I will ask Congress to grant me the privilege of coming before both houses to take questions, and address criticism, much the same as the Prime Minister of Great Britain appears regularly before the House of Commons.
Hey John, we’re a Constitutional Republic not a Parliamentary Circus. This practice is done in Briton because the “Prime Minister” is theoretically a part of the legislative body that has been tasked with the executive functions of the Government. Briton doesn’t have a Separation of Powers there. You might want to subject yourself to the circus that such an arrangement would be, but I for one don’t want to see it. Despite Clinton’s assaults on it, there is a dignity and decorum to be considered in the Office of the President of the United States and I for one don’t appreciate the idea that you would go before the Congress and be exposed as a buffoon!
No thanks on this one…I’m actually building a smoldering rage as I write this and think about it. I can’t think of one single proposal in my life as stupid as a Republican President going before a Democrat Congress and allowing hundreds of Congressmen and Senators take a free shot at him/her!
I will work with anyone, of either party, to make this country safe, prosperous and proud. And I won't care who gets the credit.
He won’t worry about who gets the credit…but you can rest assured…the Republican Party will get the blame when he’s done!
*GROAN*
by BigGator5
Can't you do better than attack McCain over and over again? Like, talk about local politics?
Right, you don't like McCain. We get it.
by St. Louis Conservative
Perhaps you should something productive like working to get local/state conservatives elected.
“.....women and minorities hardest hit”
You guys sound like johny one note....
by aceintx
I didn't make the Speech....Johny Mac did...If you don't like what he said...mybe you should talk to him
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by BigGator5
Always complaining about McCain. Never missing an opportunity to put him down. Can you do anything constructive?
Take Erick's advice:
Second, you don't want to rah-rah John McCain? Fine. I'm happy to pull your weight around. All you have to do is turn your fire on the Democrats. This site aims to win and it is our intention to support McCain. If you don't want to, I'm not going to make you. But, see the third point.
Third, there is a candidate in your state that you support. He or she may be running for mayor or city council or district attorney or the state legislature or governor or congress. There may be a *Democrat* you cannot tolerate running for office in your state. Heck, there may be two or five or a dozen such candidates. There might even be an issue on the ballot you care about.
Get writing about that candidate or issue.
I'm just commenting on what the man said!
by aceintx
I am being constructive in my mind by pointing out his foolishness so maybe he can change course before it's too late!
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Shove Off!
by BigGator5
If you want to elect Obama, go to the Daily KOS where you belong!
Again...Johnny one not...
by aceintx
Go to Kos blah blah blah.
Can you talk specifics about what I wrote or what McCain said or do you just want to be an insulting clown?
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No
by BigGator5
No, simplely because you can't say anything good about McCain. Until you can, you will be no more an agent of Obama.
whatever you say Gator
by aceintx
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towards defeating Obama. But if you can't defend McCain's own words, then its you that are helping Obama, not our
ace!
Mike DeVine’s Charlotte Observer columns
http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
Why Don't You And Ace...
by BigGator5
Why don't you and Ace go to the Hinz... site... whatever, and circle-jeck your anti-McCain message.
grow up
by aceintx
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Me or Gator?
by aceintx
CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
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First of all that's a good site. Second of all ace is a good contributor to Redstate.
absentee
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off steam about McCain there (which is not an uncommon thing) I hardly find it to be a circlejerk. I am telling you if you go the the NRCC blog that Michelle Malkin has a link to Tom Cole is being taken to the woodshed by conservatives/republicans on their inability to stick to a conservative message and McCain is being handed his a$$ over there as well....
Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion
Erick Told Us To...
by BigGator5
If you have a problem with McCain, talk about something else! I even talked how this Anti-McCain crap is nothing but helping Obama!
Enough, is enough, is enough. Again, this is not coming from me. It's coming from Erick!!!
continue to try to do so even thought it's hard :-)
BUT when he speaks to LaRaza IF he panders and dismisses us than I will not be conservative about him in my views.
But over at Hinz site there is no circle jerk going on...there is no reason to dismiss those who go there and by the way if we go there to vent there is less to vent about here.
Freedom of Religion not Freedom from Religion
As I said...I'm just commenting on what McCain said...If you can't handle what he said you should take it up with him
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Let's Focus On The Good Things He Said...
by BigGator5
The why the frak can't you focus on the good things and NOT the bad things? We are trying to win this election, not lose it!
I never said he didn't say some good things...but that's not the subject of my post, it's how incoherent and rambling this speech was...and it's typical of all of them I've seen.
Bottom line is this...don't accuse me of being negative when you come into this thread and start hurling insults from the jump. tell me where I am off base...point out the good parts of the speech but take your insults and stick them where they belong!
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Instead of whining about it, why don't you expend some energy on refuting what he said. I don't think Erick meant that we must fawn over every word that McCain utters.
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by BigGator5
Erick didn't say you have to fawn over McCain. Just focus your energy against Democrats, not against McCain!
My energy is focused on McCain and the sorry state of his campaign.
I see two potential problems here. If McCain believes this he's erratic in his thinking and needs to take some time to get his thoughts together. The other is that his campaign wrote this speech and didn't put a whole lot of thought into it...either way something needs to be fixed and bothing will happen if we all put our heads down and act like nothing is wrong!
Look at it this way...the squeaky wheel gets the grease. If I and others squeal loud enough to get McCain to fix the weaknesses in his campaign...Haven't I helped him?
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To quote Erick
by simpson316
"I'd ask them to let us do the business they don't want to do while they do no harm, but if McCain sticks his thumb in our eyes, I have no problem throwing a deserved punch."
Emphasis mine
Now also found at The Minority Report
and hasn't Erick been critical of McCain since then?
What are you saying Simpson? Are we supposed to ignore the elephant in the tent? Should we not point out the obvious because we might get in someone's way, or disabuse them of the delusion that everything is roses and sunshine when there are storm clouds gathering?
I don't get it. All I'm doing is commenting on a speech. I'm pointing out how incoherent and contradictory it is. I'm pointing out how silly it is. If you don't want a light shined on this silly speech and the dozens like it McCain has given over the last couple months, maybe you should get with McCain's staff if you have access to them and fire his speech writer....this speech is worthy of a Jr. high term paper!
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I missread your post Simpson...
by aceintx
I missread your post Simpson...Sorry and thanks for backing me up
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speeches.
show me the link
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http://thehinzsightreport.com
www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
You're Right
by BigGator5
You right, he didn't say you have to defend McCain's speech.
However you ever heard of the old saying: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all?"
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www.theminorityreportblog.com
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
Obviously McCain missed that old saw. nt
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CongressCritter™: Never have so few felt like they were owed so much by so many for so little.
I agree with Gator
by absentee
What are you doing ace? What do you think you're accomplishing?
absentee
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read the man's speech...if he can't see the problems with it we've all got problems!
He'll never see the problems unless someone points them out...
One never wins when surrounded by yes men so I'd ask you...What do
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Abs...we've debated before and I know you to be a reasonable person. Go read this speech. Better yet, go listen to McCain deliver it...and then tell me you don't see major problems whith what he says!
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Do you think it's a good idea for a US President to open himself up to ridicule in front of 535 Congressmen and Senators?
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as campaign speeches go
by absentee
I thought it was a fine speech. There are currently three sources of campaign speeches. I find McCain's by far the least objectionable.
I'm sure if, as President, he starts up on something he oughtn't, I'll have precisely the same opportunity then as I do now to raise heck about it. With the bonus of not participating in the Obama and Clinton campaigns efforts, and the MSM efforts to take him down.
When McCain objected to the NCGOP ad, gamecock suggested that the worst part was providing ammo for the MSM to take down Republicans.
I submit the constant barrage of merciless criticism of our nominee is at least as fertile a source of ammo for the other side. I choose to withhold from them that which they wish most for me to provide.
absentee
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Maybe the constant barrage wouldn't be so devastating if Mac didn't provide such a target rich environment! That's the point of my post...it's to point out the silly nature of this speech...McCain isn't being well served by his speech writers if this is what we can expect till November.
He rambled, didn't give any specifics as to how he was going to accomplish anything he's promising, he's stating contradictory goals...It's scary to me actually!
You really think this is a well written speech?
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Again I ask you...do you think the POTUS should subject himself to being ambushed and belittled by 535 members of the legislative branch of government on a regular basis?
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What I Think?
by BigGator5
I think McCain would be an awesome President.
Part of President Bush's 2004 promise was to do a news conference every week. Yeah, like that worked out.
IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!
then why bring it up?
by aceintx
It's not like it's a great idea in the first place.
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He's A Bloody Politician! Why Else?
by BigGator5
Why did Bush bring it up? Bcause they all say they want more openness and accountability! I'll believe it when I see it! Until then, stop worrying about the little things!
Right
by bs
Let's stop worrying about little things like his policy positions that he expands upon in his speeches. Trivial stuff like that
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A good politician wouldn't bring up a stupid idea!
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A good politician wouldn't bring up a stupid idea
by olsmithie
Respectfully, Sir,I must ask.
Did you use good and politician in the same sentence?
Regards
LOL...I see your point...I'm not fond of oxymorons...or morons for that matter!
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Bush didn't bring up an idea like having a question and answer session before both houses of Congress on a regular basis and if he had I'd have said it was a stupid idea then!
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NCGOP ad
by olsmithie
If one has not seen it, this ad was about the NC Demoncrat governor's race, explaining both D candidates had endorsed Obama.
It really didn't concern the national race nor was it any of Mac's business.
I see McCain as the lesser of the evils.
Sitting home and letting Lenin's followers take the White house is not an option.
Conservatives will be humiliated and embarrassed by a McCain presidency, but still, it will only be mildly painful compared to officially instituting Marxism on America...
At least we still have free speech, or at least until 60 days before the election.
Regards
How stupid of me!
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Accomplishing An Obama Presidency
by BigGator5
What you're accomplishing, is an Obama Presidency by trearing down McCain any chance you get! I am sick of it!
By shooting off on RedState?
by rstreu
Yeah. I'm sure people mentioning McCain's weaknesses on RedState will totally blow the entire election.
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Do not take it seriously. John McCain gave a great. speech.
by Mark Kilmer
The GOP has always had disagreements within its ranks. I remember, as a kid, the Ford-Reagan split of '76; of course, the Reaganites behaved very differently than the Romneybots are behaving here, but we looked to Ronald Reagan. They look to Mitt Romney. It has much to do with foundation, but to his credit, Mitt Romney is playing nicer than are some of his groupies.
I'm all for letting this disagreement play out so long as its not disruptive of the site and they do not claim Ronald Reagan for their side, either ideologically or politically.
In the long run, this could be healthy, as it will expose us early to some of the arguments the left will use against our nominee in November. And hopefully by after the convention, those venting now will be on board. But until the convention, its kind of cute, in a sense.
At least we agree in part...
by aceintx
At least we agree in part...I agree with you here:
In the long run, this could be healthy, as it will expose us early to some of the arguments the left will use against our nominee in November.
I disagree with you on everything else however.
First of all, I'm anything but a Romneybot and I'm sick of people trying to minimize what I'm saying by trying to tie a politician around my neck as if I don't have a brain and can't think for my self! This is especially so when they try to tie one around my neck who I do not support and will not support in the future. I could have voted for Romney as a stop the McCain last ditch effort but I hold Romney in the worse kind of contempt because he effectively kneecapped every nominee we had that could have stopped the joke we have now!
As for Reagan, I have as much right to claim him as any other person here, maybe more so because I'm a three legged conservative in his image and there are a lot here who would cut off one leg or the other if they could!
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You are wrong on several counts.
by Mark Kilmer
First, about Romney vs. McCain. It is irrational to call John McCain a "joke" when you would have supported Romney to defeat him. Remember, it was Romney who was arguably "joking" (insincere) with voters; McCain has been nothing but honest, sometimes painfully so.
The second problem you have is a major one:
As for Reagan, I have as much right to claim him as any other person here, maybe more so because I'm a three legged conservative in his image and there are a lot here who would cut off one leg or the other if they could!
Absolutely not, Ace! John McCain is the nominee, and he has been an ideological conservative on almost everything, campaign finance being the most notable exception. Ronald Reagan would be supporting John McCain, probably more passionately than he did Gerald Ford. (I say "probably" because no one alive can speak for the man. But on some issues, President Reagan spoke loudly when he was alive.)
Ronald Reagan would never sanction the childish upside-down John McCain Presidential banner. I do not speak for the man; he spoke for himself. He taught that the Republican Party supports its nominees, and members of the GOP will support John McCain.
You are entitled to oppose John McCain, but you have absolutely no claim to Ronald Reagan.
I can understand this visceral thing you have with John McCain. It happens. But standing between this country and a Presidency possibly more disastrous than was Carter's is a man who served his country in the Navy then served it more in the Senate, one of the few foes of earmarks in the Senate, a man who can deal effectively with America's enemies. I came into this not a fan of John McCain's, but that alone would have carried me to campaign for him (or for any Republican). Watching John McCain on the trail, listening to him speak, reading his background, trying to get into his mind, this is making me into a fan of the guy.
Remember what I've written front page about this nominee. I've never shown any real enthusiasm for the man. I've questioned whether we needed someone about whom we could be excited in order to beat Obama, a candidate about whom some Democrats are very excited, in an awkward, rapt sort of way.
When all is said and done, we ended up with the best candidate to beat Obama and a man who will be a firm hand where this country most needs it: foreign affairs/military, taxes, and spending.
Again, you're entitled to your own thing. It does pain me to see Republicans act contrary to a revolution about which I cared so much, but I trust this will be temporary. Concentrate downticket, though that will fare well only if it is not dragged down by the top, and hopefully you'll drop the attacks on the nominee, the upside-down stuff, by the time the convention rolls around.
First off Reagan had the 11th commandment....It's John McCain that refuses to abide by it. He's the one prepetually in Conservatives faces and speaking disparagingly of us!
Secondly, Reagan ran against a sitting president so don't tell me he wouldn't oppose a candidate he thought was wrong!
Thirdly, I don't know who you think you are but just because you say I have no claim to the mantle of Reagan doesn't make it so. Can you tell me who appointed you an expert and absolute authority on what Reagan represented and who should be allowed to rally to his cause?
As for McCain being Conservative on everything except CFR...Have you read his cap & Trade speech, or gone over his health care for America speech? What about his comments in the speech I am commenting on about Federal mandates on school for nutrition programs and nanny state programs to end obesity? I could name a lot more from this speach alone...but what's the point?
As for the upside down logo...you can spit and sputter all you want and mischaracterize it's meaning all you want but you are wrong. I've said repeatedly that it's not intended as an insult but a signal of a Republican in distress!
Watching John McCain on the trail, listening to him speak, reading his background, trying to get into his mind, this is making me into a fan of the guy.
Read this speech with a critical eye and tell me it makes any sense? You can read my comments too but ignore my name calling, I'm getting ready to remove that since someone pointed out to me that it takes away from the legitimate points I'm making and I agree with that. My reactions are visceral and it's something I've tried to get past and it came out as I write this post...but again...read this speech and tell me what you think. To me, either McCain has a hard time with logic if he wrote the speech or his campaign needs someone new on the message team and new speech writers!
Finally, I'd be curious to know if you think it's a good Idea for a POTUS to subject himself to regular question and answer sessions before 535 members of the house and Senate or am alone in thinking it's an insane idea?
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After reading the part about
by Menlo
After reading the part about Britain and the separation of powers, his earlier comment on judges jumped out at me:
Scores of judges have been confirmed to the federal district and appellate courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, who understand that they were not sent there to write our laws but to enforce them and make sure they are consistent with the Constitution.
Since WHEN were judges put there to ENFORCE the law? That is YOUR job, Mr. McCain, NOT theirs. They have no business enforcing anything. Why aren't YOU going to enforce it?!
Similarly, contrary to popular opinion and assumption, it is the job of neither McCain nor any other President to make laws, despite what 99.999 percent of voters have come to believe. It's the President's job to enforce the laws that already exist, and that doesn't seem to be McCain's stong suit.
Of course none of this really comes as a surprise, so it shouldn't change the voters' minds.
rulings along with opinions, they do effectively enforce laws.
The main issue is do they enforce the constitution as written or one they re-write.
But yes, Presidents are charged with enforcing the laws.
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Actually GC...Constitutionally it is the Executive that enforces laws...I agree with Menlo and was surprised by his comment because I totally missed it!
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constitution says. I know the word "enforce". I also know that when exercising the judicial power, judges and justices when interpreting the constitution, in fact, either enforce the constitution or transgress it.
It is a matter of semantics.
Executives arrest people as they enforce the law, but they can't convict them. That is done in a court of law, where judges and juries make rulings on facts and law.
get the drift?
Menlo's point was a meaningless distortion of McCain's words. Menlo either knew what McCain said and intentionally did what libs make a living at: twisting words for gotchas
Or he is quite ignorant and sees the word enforce, and imagines that its only meaning is as applied to the executive.
Enforcing the law is a PROCESS. No, justices can't arrest people. But the final act in enforcing law is a judgment by a judge.
Listen to the lawyer and learn.
I am the expert on this.
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I'm just saying he does have a point!
The judiciary carries out the law and pronounces judgement but it is the executive that is the actual enforcement arm is it not?
I mean prisons and their administration are an executive function are they not? A judge can issue a warrant but it's still up to the executive to carry out the arrest.
That's all I'm saying...
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He has a point, a very meaningless puny point that is a non sequitur in the context in which McCain was speaking. Its a sophomoric point.
You said: "The judiciary carries out the law and pronounces judgement ..."
carries out
pronounces judgment
interprets
arrest
detain
all are part of the enforcement of the law
The Executive "executes" the law.
The point is that McCain was not suggesting that judges arrest people, and menlo knows that. It was a cheap shot, dollar store cheap.
sophomoric
language is a limited tool
too much time at RS is spent over semantics
McCain obviously meant that the court follow the constitution as written instead of making up a new one.
Nice blog man. You aced your points.
menlo did not
but he usually does
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OK OK....I surrender....
by aceintx
Put the spurs back in dude It's a small point but not worth being taken to the coop!
LOL
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wisdom like this brings tears to my eyes - nt
by gamecock
Mike DeVine’s Charlotte Observer columns
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www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
I do get your point about blowing it up to be more than it is however.
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ace of intx aces gc test! - nt
by gamecock
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www.theminorityreportblog.com
www.race42008.com
"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
BTW it's Ace In TX
by aceintx
CFR, Amnesty, Spending, Corruption,
Earmarks, Socialized Medicine:
”Your Silence Is Your Consent!”
Spurs rule - nt
by gamecock
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"One man with courage makes a majority." - Andrew Jackson
nah. Lakers rule n/t
by pilgrim
If he gets them all out of the US Senate and backs them up with conservative Under Secretaries (Who actually do the heavy lifting), who knows, it may be a good thing!
Reality check: Not likely to happen, most of the Senators will want to stay right where they are. But it makes for nice "unity rhetoric" that Obama is famous for.
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